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we investigated a lot of these cases and

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we found because of these medical

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associations we postulated that some

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kind of sampling exercise might be going

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on at the same time as the uh the quote

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unquote genuine mutilation so that that

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sort of brings brings this whole

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bi-directional mimicry hypothesis what

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does that mean I don't know what the

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word means so so mimicry here we have a

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phenomenon that began we think in the

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1950s it probably began earlier but you

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know a lot of the cases started emerging

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in the late 1950s and and 1960s of

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cattle mutilations all the way through

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the western part of the United States

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and also up in Canada

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um and actually in other countries too

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so here we have a phenomenon that's

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quote unquote genuine but at the same

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time we're finding these occasional

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cases where it's pretty obvious that

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somebody is using sedatives is using

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hypodermic needles and is using medical

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equipment to exsanguinate animals so we

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postulated that there were two things

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simultaneously that were causing a lot

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of confusion you've got number one a

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quote unquote genuine phenomenon and

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number two you've got this medical

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surveillance project that has been

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carried out knowing that you know most

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veterinarians will not touch a mutilated

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animal because the quote-unquote aliens

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are associated with mutilated animals so

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these these small covert surveillance

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programs

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um that are being carried out

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um are being carried out knowing uh that

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the all overall umbrella of cattle

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mutilations is protecting the

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perpetrators from being caught so I mean

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that's the bi-directional mimic where

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you've got you've got the quote unquote

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real phenomenon you've got a a small

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program that's hiding underneath the

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phenomenon and then you've got the

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phenomenon that's actually mimicking you

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know the uh the the the government

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surveillance program so you've got this

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you can you can create these Z plots but

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the problem is that you're looking at

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cattle mutilations through the lens of

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two layers of deception you know so

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you've got the layer of deception from

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the uh from the phenomenon you've also

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got the layer of deception from the

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um the government program that is using

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in cattle mutilations as a cover for a

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surveillance effort so you've got two

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layers of deception it's very very

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difficult for an outsider coming into

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this to penetrate those two layers of

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deception you can draw exactly the same

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plot for the UFO phenomenon you know UFO

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phenomenon starts off as being genuine

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then you I mean we interviewed Colonel

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infamous afosi PJ we interviewed him as

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part of the ASAP program

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this I mean he blatantly told us he

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didn't tell us on camera but he told us

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that they had used the UFO phenomenon as

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a cover for their Advanced projects and

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this guy was part of the Air Force the

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afosi so

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um so we have the same thing we've got a

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we've got a quote unquote genuine

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phenomenon we've got a series of

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advanced technology projects special

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as a as a cover and then you've got this

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sort of reverse engineering setup that's

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going on that are creating these

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um you know special access programs that

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are are happening and then you've got

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the phenomenon that is mimicking these

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special access programs you know you've

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helicopters with impossible levels of of

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acceleration you've got you know craft

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flying around the place

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um that look like triangular craft that

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that should be part of the you know Air

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Force Arsenal but they're probably the

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phenomenon so you've got this two layers

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of deception with the UFO phenomenon so

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which we've been asking for decades are

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they ours are theirs you you uh

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eventually wrote a book about your ideas

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Brain Trust it was right where you're

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looking at the two levels so there is a

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legitimate mystery something carving up

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cattle horses sheep dogs cats deer other

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wild animals it's not just it's not just

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cows right that something has been doing

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this taking particular Parts uh I'd be

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interested in why those parts what what

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they whoever they are could learn from

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it and then the secondary monitoring

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either government or industry that is

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tracking something through the food

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chain what were they looking for what

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what could be learned based on the parts

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that are being taken from these various

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animals well we put out the hypothesis

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at nids back in 2003 we were looking for

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what could possibly be of such interest

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track something you go to

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slaughterhouses and you gather samples I

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mean there's no there's nothing

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mysterious about that but if you want to

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track spread of something through herds

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in the wild the way you do it is illegal

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animals if if it's Wildlife it's not

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illegal but if these are cattle that are

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owned by ranchers it is illegal so you

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do it under under covert why would the

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government just have their own staple of

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cows that they would yeah why would you

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go steal somebody's cow instead because

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you're tracking something that's that's

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moving through the food chain in the in

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the west of the United States

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government's cows so it's like that's

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that's why they're do well well I mean

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that one of the possible infectious

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organisms that could be traveling

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surreptitiously through the herds was

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what what is called a prion which is an

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infectious protein indestructible

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indestructible and it it actually

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has destroyed a lot of the elk

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population a lot of the deer population

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cows it infects deers and Elk so we we

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Infectious organism which is a very

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devastating disease a brain disease

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you're a human's brain turns to Swiss

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cheese in cows it's called mad cow

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disease and it erupted in the United

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Kingdom in the 1990s and you know people

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who were who were eating infected meat

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these devastating brain diseases where

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the brains became swiss cheese and they

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behest of the government yes

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um did a covert program to track prions

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bizarre series of

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um cause and effects that led to that

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hypothesis but to cut a long story short

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an NIH scientist out in Papua New Guinea

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uh was investigating this bizarre brain

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disease that people in Papua New Guinea

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were coming down with Edibles yeah there

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were cannibals they were eating their

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dead as a sign of respect but the

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problem with eating their dead was they

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were eating the these people's brains

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uncontrollable shaking and they would

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of of symptoms starting so this guy his

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you know who's kind of like a James Bond

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type he would be out in the wilds and

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these people would be dying all over the

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um of this uncontrollable disease so we

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take their brains out which were

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infected with this thing and he would

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ship them back to the National

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States they all ended up in this place

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center of biological warfare research in

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the United States so they started

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in the 1960s they really had no idea

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what what this causative agent was doing

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a slow virus so they started injecting

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this these uh brain slurries into every

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animal they could get their hands on

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everything like from chimpanzees they

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Maryland there was actually a Wildlife

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injecting deer they started injecting

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the Wildlife Reserve was so poorly uh

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secure that a lot of these animals

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prion which is a very slow way of dying

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it and there was a a major outbreak of

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this prion disease in northeastern

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catalation phenomenon erupted in

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northeastern Colorado around the same

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time roughly temporally and so you know

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that they were actually monitoring the

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spread of these prions as it spread

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through the cattle herds in northeastern

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Colorado and then they found that there

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was spreading a lot quicker through the

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United States so and it's scary as hell

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column's book Brain Trust tracks the

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spread of this it really is through the

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food chain you know those animals get

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to other animals these prions are

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indestructible so now those animals have

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they get it and then they they get

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ground up and people eat them and it

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goes into humans there's been an

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explosion we don't call it mad cow

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anymore but other kinds of brain

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diseases brain wasting diseases that

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nobody wants to talk about that nobody

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wants to admit might be related to this

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because they don't want to uh alienate

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the beef industry or the pig industry

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they want people to keep on eating this